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  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Quests #1 through #33 are updated
    I'll be rewriting a bunch of the quest text and refining it, but mechanically, it's all in. Stand By for Polish.

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    01-10: Earth Basic Training
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    01: Earth: Wake Up
    02: Equipment - equipping Clothes and Weapons tutorial quest
    03: Eating/Drinking tutorial quest
    04: Medications tutorial quest
    05: Use Briefcase tutorial quest
    06: Craft Food/Drink tutorial quest
    07: Sell Stuff to Sid tutorial quest
    08: Databuddy tutorial quest
    09: Converse 10/Sex0r 10/Attack 10 mobs
    10: Craft passport. Get IPT Teleport implant
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    11-20: Travelling the Planets (IPT/DoppelPets/Ore Shield/Rocket Pack)
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    11: Laxloo (DP quest - now Mandatory DNA submission)
    12: Stat Challenge: level DP to 30 EXP
    13: Solaris (Sushi Master quest)
    14: Thank You For Smoking quest
    15: Nortonia (Shield quest)
    16: Trade-Recharge Pump tutorial quest (given to you)
    17: Pharma (rewards banannas and bof ore)
    18: Casino bathroom tutorial quest
    19: New Ceylon (rocket pack quest - Space and Probe Access)
    20: Gather Spaceworthy Suit, launch into space and launch 100 Warp Probes (given to you)
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    21-30: Into Space! (Trading/Bank Interest/PsP/PvP/Mining)
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    21: Trinoc (bank interest/trading quest +5000 Trade Exp./+300 Bank Interest)
    22: Port Trading Challenge: +10000 Trade Exp.
    23: Yeranus (ACME Battlesuit quest)
    24: Port Trading Challenge: +20000 Trade Exp.
    25: Barnimus (sex bomb quest)
    26: Tranquility (sex0r quest)
    27: Boria (Mining Tool quest - minor miner)
    28: Asteroid Mining quest (spend 1000 turns mining asteroids)
    29: Xiao MeiMei (100 turns of One-Handed Casino Combat + Cassette Quest)
    [new voluntary stopping point for PvP sharks. Unlock Display Case at 29.]
    30: War Talk, acquire Drone/Facility Awareness (awards 1000 drones)
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    31-33: To War! (Drone/Facility training)
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    31: Place 1000 drones (given to you - awards 1000 drones)
    32: Build mining colony and staff it (given to you - awards 1000 drones)
    33: Build drone factory and staff it (given to you - awards 1000 drones)

    The Tranquility Sex0r quest has been moved from #31 to #26. Note that this knocks out a planned Bank Interest/Trade Exp stat quest that was in the updated plan. I realized we needed an actual Asteroid Mining quest right after the Minor Miner quest where you get your mining tool, so added that at #28.

    Warp Probes can now be bought from Spaceman's Supply as soon as you have access to the Rocket Pack. Also, I've removed the "Anarchy Period" drone deterioration and lockout routines, because they are important to leveling now, so drones and factories are now available in Anarchy again.

    I've updated the master plan to show this new structure.
  • Posted By: xKiv  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  


    (spend 1000 turns mining asteroids)



    Goodbye, sub-1000 fez! Nice knowing *of* you!
    (/me waves goodbye)
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    when are you thinking of implementing quests 1 - 21? ill dimit again to see how they work, but ill wait till then :)
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    26: Tranquility (PsP sex0r quest)

    I'm not getting the option to read the data card in the uni, though I've spent dozens of turns there. Is it just bad luck?

    Thanks!
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    26: Tranquility (PsP sex0r quest)

    I'm not getting the option to read the data card in the uni, though I've spent dozens of turns there. Is it just bad luck?

    Thanks!



    Fixed, I think. try now.
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    It works!

    Edit:

    I found another issue: I am required to sex0r the Chicken Taheen from BiChi Gang Pagoda, but that zone is not yet open.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    It works!

    Edit:

    I found another issue: I am required to sex0r the Chicken Taheen from BiChi Gang Pagoda, but that zone is not yet open.



    cleared your quest data. I removed Xiao from the quest pulls yesterday. pick up the quest again and try now.
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    The sex0r quest is being very stubborn!

    I have successfully sex0red the required mobs twice now, and the lodgemaster does not acknowledge this accomplishment.

    Thanks!
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    The sex0r quest is being very stubborn!

    I have successfully sex0red the required mobs twice now, and the lodgemaster does not acknowledge this accomplishment.

    Thanks!



    ok, it wasn't counting in the sex0r script. I've now fixed it. Try again, same list of suspects.
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  


    ok, it wasn't counting in the sex0r script. I've now fixed it. Try again, same list of suspects.



    It worked! Thanks!
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    I must be the only person dimiting. :)

    For Degree 31, it seems the lodgemaster gave me 1,000 drones twice.

    ...Congratulations Knight Kadosh! You are now Drone and Facility aware! Here are some drones to start you out.

    This is a set-and-forget sector control battle drone. Giving 1,000 Battle Drones.
    Now you have 11,000.
    You may now proceed to your next assignment.

    Congratulations, Knight Kadosh! You're now at your nearly penultimate degree, the one which signifies that you are nearly a full member of your Society. When you complete this degree, you will have gained mastery of placing battle drones in a space sector to defend it against your enemies.

    Here are some Battle Drones, which you will use to complete your next Degree Challenge.

    This is a set-and-forget sector control battle drone. Giving 1,000 Battle Drones.
    Now you have 12,000.
    You will also find Battle Drones in Spaceman's Supply here at the Lodge.

    Once you have placed your 1000 drones in a space sector, return to me...
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    I must be the only person dimiting. :)

    For Degree 31, it seems the lodgemaster gave me 1,000 drones twice.

    ...Congratulations Knight Kadosh! You are now Drone and Facility aware! Here are some drones to start you out.

    This is a set-and-forget sector control battle drone. Giving 1,000 Battle Drones.
    Now you have 11,000.
    You may now proceed to your next assignment.

    Congratulations, Knight Kadosh! You're now at your nearly penultimate degree, the one which signifies that you are nearly a full member of your Society. When you complete this degree, you will have gained mastery of placing battle drones in a space sector to defend it against your enemies.

    Here are some Battle Drones, which you will use to complete your next Degree Challenge.

    This is a set-and-forget sector control battle drone. Giving 1,000 Battle Drones.
    Now you have 12,000.
    You will also find Battle Drones in Spaceman's Supply here at the Lodge.

    Once you have placed your 1000 drones in a space sector, return to me...



    that is correct. you should end up with 5000 when you're finished.
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  


    that is correct. you should end up with 5000 when you're finished.



    Okay. I'm done. I dimited through the new Degrees 22-33. :)
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

      Quote "munk":  


    that is correct. you should end up with 5000 when you're finished.



    Okay. I'm done. I dimited through the new Degrees 22-33. :)



    Thank you! <3
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    I must be the only person dimiting. :)



    yeah ive been waiting till the lower ones have been changed...should I join you now anyway?
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Just a comment:

    On the asteroid quest, I do understand that the point of it being 1000 turns is to slow fast people down. However, if attracting new people is the goal, this may be a rough one. They will have little idea on what foods and drinks will generate a lot of turns, and may end up having to wait 3-5 days to get that many turns, just to finish a quest where you go click click click 100 times on mine 10. That may turn some new people away.

    Perhaps a better set-up would be less turns on the first time thru, and then 1000 for dimiting players, that way we can get as many new players to the drone game so they can see what it is really about.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "crashnburn11":  

    Just a comment:

    On the asteroid quest, I do understand that the point of it being 1000 turns is to slow fast people down. However, if attracting new people is the goal, this may be a rough one. They will have little idea on what foods and drinks will generate a lot of turns, and may end up having to wait 3-5 days to get that many turns, just to finish a quest where you go click click click 100 times on mine 10. That may turn some new people away.

    Perhaps a better set-up would be less turns on the first time thru, and then 1000 for dimiting players, that way we can get as many new players to the drone game so they can see what it is really about.



    Don't worry too much about the number, as it'll change. you'll notice I've been removing many of the "stat gain" goals in other quests, which will serve more to acquaint people with the features rather than acquire and spend resources. The mining one is just a turns regulator which can be fine-tuned once I get everything else in. Also, the "dimit" questline isn't built yet, and it probably won't look too much like the plan dictates. I'm doing some re-thinking as I plod through the code. (:
  • Posted By: Rickton  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Plus, they'll be getting good food in lunchboxes which'll help (though I do agree 1000 turns seems a little high for a first-time player).
  • Posted By: Ignatious  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    I dimited again to see the new stuff in action and I'm stuck on degree 25. You can't make Chicken Tetrizinni without Magic Mushrooms and the spots to get those went away. The Data Buddy says totally lost astronauts drop them, but I've burnt a few hundred turns at the weedfarm so far (see what I did there) and no drop yet.

    Could you make the Mushies a more common drop or require a different dish for now?

    Fwiw I am enjoying the new quests. The progression seems to make more sense than before.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Ignatious":  

    I dimited again to see the new stuff in action and I'm stuck on degree 25. You can't make Chicken Tetrizinni without Magic Mushrooms and the spots to get those went away. The Data Buddy says totally lost astronauts drop them, but I've burnt a few hundred turns at the weedfarm so far (see what I did there) and no drop yet.

    Could you make the Mushies a more common drop or require a different dish for now?

    Fwiw I am enjoying the new quests. The progression seems to make more sense than before.



    ok, xKiv's listed some stuff too that needs to be made available. I'll see if I can get some of that stuff back in game today. (:

    EDIT: Ok, added magic mushrooms to Solaris.
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Are doppels still making Battle Tokens?
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

    Are doppels still making Battle Tokens?



    probably. doesn't matter much.
  • Posted By: xKiv  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    They were even when drones were disabled, but the only thing they could be sepnt on was trade hypos.
  • Posted By: Ignatious  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    We need some rubbers for the Pentagon now. :)
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Ignatious":  

    We need some rubbers for the Pentagon now. :)



    rubbers added to some more mobs on other planets.
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    So are Dark Sunglasses given out in the beginning now? missed it if they were, just want to make sure its not a glitch
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Salen":  

    So are Dark Sunglasses given out in the beginning now? missed it if they were, just want to make sure its not a glitch



    lots of stuff is given out now. (:
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    love it so far...just one more dumb question. Why did the green arrows go away, to click new degree? are they just in the beginning levels?
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Also, ran into a thing. Not a problem, just a thing. I remembered why we did that power grind after the hypercomputer quest. Now you get the warp probe quest, so I blasted off after getting my double banana blasters and then stopped dead as I had no peels LOL! and then it struck me that in this new info about the game tutorial through the degrees, that training up weapons didn't really come up. before you got the urine blaster and had to fight, then you got bananas and had to gain power (usually fight), but know people may not know how to get their weapons up to 100% (or even why they need to)

    I'm not talking players now, but new players that may drop in when we reset...or is this just my over anal mind racing through useless things again :)
  • Posted By: xthesaintx  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Hey where can I see my GEOC power distribution now? I usually headed into the lodge to check how my power was distributed, especially when leaning and seeing how far to correct, but now I'm leaning and head to lodge and just get the notice that I'm leaning and need to correct, would be nice to see how far away from 0 I have strayed and need to correct rather than do it blindly.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "xthesaintx":  

    Hey where can I see my GEOC power distribution now? I usually headed into the lodge to check how my power was distributed, especially when leaning and seeing how far to correct, but now I'm leaning and head to lodge and just get the notice that I'm leaning and need to correct, would be nice to see how far away from 0 I have strayed and need to correct rather than do it blindly.



    hmmn, I see the GEOC numbers at the lodge, and I'm leaning too. (:
  • Posted By: xthesaintx  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

    hmmn, I see the GEOC numbers at the lodge, and I'm leaning too. (:



    Maybe an Amaranth thing? I accidentally (poor planning) added 800 chaos, oops, so was busy rectifying via the power gym, but didn't reach my goal and then doing via trades. Wasn't 100% sure how much I had left so I popped into a lodge and didn't have all the usual stats etc just the lodge master telling me I was out of alignment and the lodge was closed to me until the roll over.

    On a side to this I've always thought it would be nice to see the GEOC distribution on the player profile page instead of just the power number, or even a rollover pop up on the main side panel.

    Cheeears :)
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "xthesaintx":  

      Quote "munk":  

    hmmn, I see the GEOC numbers at the lodge, and I'm leaning too. (:



    Maybe an Amaranth thing? I accidentally (poor planning) added 800 chaos, oops, so was busy rectifying via the power gym, but didn't reach my goal and then doing via trades. Wasn't 100% sure how much I had left so I popped into a lodge and didn't have all the usual stats etc just the lodge master telling me I was out of alignment and the lodge was closed to me until the roll over.

    On a side to this I've always thought it would be nice to see the GEOC distribution on the player profile page instead of just the power number, or even a rollover pop up on the main side panel.

    Cheeears :)



    are you 33? the lodge will lock you out if you lean at 33.
  • Posted By: xthesaintx  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

    are you 33? the lodge will lock you out if you lean at 33.



    I am indeed. Thanks.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "xthesaintx":  

      Quote "munk":  

    are you 33? the lodge will lock you out if you lean at 33.



    I am indeed. Thanks.



    Yuh, the Lodgemaster's tolerance for leaning vanishes once you're out of the questline. (:
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Salen":  

    Also, ran into a thing. Not a problem, just a thing. I remembered why we did that power grind after the hypercomputer quest. Now you get the warp probe quest, so I blasted off after getting my double banana blasters and then stopped dead as I had no peels LOL! and then it struck me that in this new info about the game tutorial through the degrees, that training up weapons didn't really come up. before you got the urine blaster and had to fight, then you got bananas and had to gain power (usually fight), but know people may not know how to get their weapons up to 100% (or even why they need to)

    I'm not talking players now, but new players that may drop in when we reset...or is this just my over anal mind racing through useless things again :)



    I think the Urine Blaster is out of the loop now. Might make that drop somewheres.

    The previous questline did rather dwell a lot on weapons training, whereas now it doesn't - instead basically assuming you know by instinct which is the business end and inherently understand that practice makes perfect. Is that assuming too much?

    I was pondering adding the old Shooting Range back in, but still not sure. I suppose I could add a "train up your DBBB at the Lodge's Shooting Range" quest objective somewhere in there, with some instruction on ammo, ejection item, range and suchlike, if it were sorely wanted.
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    I had a weird deal where my teleporter disappeared, but I blasted off and landed and it reappeared
  • Posted By: Rickton  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

      Quote "Salen":  

    Also, ran into a thing. Not a problem, just a thing. I remembered why we did that power grind after the hypercomputer quest. Now you get the warp probe quest, so I blasted off after getting my double banana blasters and then stopped dead as I had no peels LOL! and then it struck me that in this new info about the game tutorial through the degrees, that training up weapons didn't really come up. before you got the urine blaster and had to fight, then you got bananas and had to gain power (usually fight), but know people may not know how to get their weapons up to 100% (or even why they need to)

    I'm not talking players now, but new players that may drop in when we reset...or is this just my over anal mind racing through useless things again :)



    I think the Urine Blaster is out of the loop now. Might make that drop somewheres.


    I think you should, otherwise the game would just have a "pitcher o' piss" item for no reason. (Unless there's something else you can do with it but I don't think so)

      Quote "munk":  


    The previous questline did rather dwell a lot on weapons training, whereas now it doesn't - instead basically assuming you know by instinct which is the business end and inherently understand that practice makes perfect. Is that assuming too much?

    I was pondering adding the old Shooting Range back in, but still not sure. I suppose I could add a "train up your DBBB at the Lodge's Shooting Range" quest objective somewhere in there, with some instruction on ammo, ejection item, range and suchlike, if it were sorely wanted.


    How did the shooting range work? Was it just "spend X turns training"? Because that honestly sounds kind of boring. If you're going to have a train-up-your-weapon quest, it should be through battle. I know you're trying to eliminate grindy quests, but weapon mastery is a grindy mechanic (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Rickton":  


      Quote "munk":  


    The previous questline did rather dwell a lot on weapons training, whereas now it doesn't - instead basically assuming you know by instinct which is the business end and inherently understand that practice makes perfect. Is that assuming too much?

    I was pondering adding the old Shooting Range back in, but still not sure. I suppose I could add a "train up your DBBB at the Lodge's Shooting Range" quest objective somewhere in there, with some instruction on ammo, ejection item, range and suchlike, if it were sorely wanted.


    How did the shooting range work? Was it just "spend X turns training"? Because that honestly sounds kind of boring. If you're going to have a train-up-your-weapon quest, it should be through battle. I know you're trying to eliminate grindy quests, but weapon mastery is a grindy mechanic (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).



    The Shooting Range was the first "figuring out a combat/weapons system" thing I built, and mimics the current "you shoot at monster" mechanic in terms of weapon skillups and hit/miss of target.

    The quest, if implemented, would probably check the players mastery of the DBBB, which would mean you could train it at the range or in combat, your choice. Many of the training quests are like that - they don't particularly care if you got your 1 fullness from eating the suggested apple or if you managed to cook up a Hungry Norton dinner and eat that instead. it only cares that you came back with 1 (or more) fullness. This provides opportunity for optimization within a run. (:
  • Posted By: Ignatious  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

      Quote "Ignatious":  

    We need some rubbers for the Pentagon now. :)



    rubbers added to some more mobs on other planets.




    OK, judging by the Databuddy Boria would be a good place to scrounge rubbers, but 300 turns and not one dropped. Bad luck or doing something wrong? Is there a better place to farm up some rubbers?
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Ignatious":  

      Quote "munk":  

      Quote "Ignatious":  

    We need some rubbers for the Pentagon now. :)



    rubbers added to some more mobs on other planets.




    OK, judging by the Databuddy Boria would be a good place to scrounge rubbers, but 300 turns and not one dropped. Bad luck or doing something wrong? Is there a better place to farm up some rubbers?



    Sex0r?
  • Posted By: Ignatious  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "crashnburn11":  

      Quote "Ignatious":  

      Quote "munk":  

      Quote "Ignatious":  

    We need some rubbers for the Pentagon now. :)



    rubbers added to some more mobs on other planets.




    OK, judging by the Databuddy Boria would be a good place to scrounge rubbers, but 300 turns and not one dropped. Bad luck or doing something wrong? Is there a better place to farm up some rubbers?



    Sex0r?



    You think I should try sex0ring? Are you saying I murder too much?
  • Posted By: Salen  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    yeah they are lonely there, finished there but heres another problem...Snorkel Mask...only mobs that have them were on phal.....at least according to databuddy

    Did check out the two beeches on Tranquility just in case the guys were moved, but no dice :)
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Salen":  

    yeah they are lonely there, finished there but heres another problem...Snorkel Mask...only mobs that have them were on phal.....at least according to databuddy

    Did check out the two beeches on Tranquility just in case the guys were moved, but no dice :)



    crabs and scuba divers survived the destruction of Phallorus and now reside on the beaches of Tranquility.
  • Posted By: BabylonHoruv  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Are doppelpe first aid kits no longer available in the lodge?
  • Posted By: Squiffle  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "BabylonHoruv":  

    Are doppelpe first aid kits no longer available in the lodge?



    Were they ever ? Try the DoppelVet on Laxloo
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Squiffle":  

      Quote "BabylonHoruv":  

    Are doppelpe first aid kits no longer available in the lodge?



    Were they ever ? Try the DoppelVet on Laxloo



    They still are for me. Maybe a degree level thing?
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "BabylonHoruv":  

    Are doppelpe first aid kits no longer available in the lodge?



    fixed!
  • Posted By: Julionics  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Small issue.. the quest for the ACME suit still has Yeranus listed as being at sec 30 and not 353. I say small issue as I am not sure if the planets are going to move again or stay where they are. The databuddy has Yeranus listed correctly.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Julionics":  

    Small issue.. the quest for the ACME suit still has Yeranus listed as being at sec 30 and not 353. I say small issue as I am not sure if the planets are going to move again or stay where they are. The databuddy has Yeranus listed correctly.



    fixed! (:
  • Posted By: Schmurrr  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

    31: Place 1000 drones (given to you - awards 1000 drones)



    This did not happen to me, but it occurred to me that it would be very easy at the beginning of a cycle for someone to lose enough drones whilst clearing out Ammie sectors that they would not have 1000 drones left to complete Degree 31.
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

    Can the trade pump at least give me enough hypos to get close to 1k trades back? It isnt even close for me, around 500 trades or so worth
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "crashnburn11":  

    Can the trade pump at least give me enough hypos to get close to 1k trades back? It isnt even close for me, around 500 trades or so worth



    I believe they get much better as your trade exp increases, but also there are a lot of variables that affect it, especially since you basically roll dice on how many hypos you get and then again on how many trades those hypos give you. Two bad rolls and you might get half your trades back, two great rolls maybe half again over. It'd be worth spading out now since it hasn't been changed in awhile.

    also, BTW: pumps drop from "Mine 10" now, like lunchboxes.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "Schmurrr":  

      Quote "munk":  

    31: Place 1000 drones (given to you - awards 1000 drones)



    This did not happen to me, but it occurred to me that it would be very easy at the beginning of a cycle for someone to lose enough drones whilst clearing out Ammie sectors that they would not have 1000 drones left to complete Degree 31.



    so they go and earn more. Spaceman's supply has drones for them by then. (:
  • Posted By: crashnburn11  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "munk":  

      Quote "crashnburn11":  

    Can the trade pump at least give me enough hypos to get close to 1k trades back? It isnt even close for me, around 500 trades or so worth



    I believe they get much better as your trade exp increases, but also there are a lot of variables that affect it, especially since you basically roll dice on how many hypos you get and then again on how many trades those hypos give you. Two bad rolls and you might get half your trades back, two great rolls maybe half again over. It'd be worth spading out now since it hasn't been changed in awhile.

    also, BTW: pumps drop from "Mine 10" now, like lunchboxes.



    I now have 4 data points. Each one gave between 20 and 30 hypos. Each hypos averages 15-16 for me right now. Even at the high end this is 480 trades worth.

    I don't have much incentive to use them other than on dimits, since the return is so low, so I don't expect data will be gathered quickly.
  • Posted By: munk  homeworld | blog | gallery | player profile

      Quote "crashnburn11":  

    I now have 4 data points. Each one gave between 20 and 30 hypos. Each hypos averages 15-16 for me right now. Even at the high end this is 480 trades worth.

    I don't have much incentive to use them other than on dimits, since the return is so low, so I don't expect data will be gathered quickly.



    I'd encourage you to take 4 samples when you have 500,000,000 trade exp under your belt, and compare the difference. The problem is that there are too many dice rolls at each stage to unexploitably make it a high-payout deal at the kind of stat levels seen 3 days in, because those dice rolls are influenced by your stats and can get very high. I'd have to yank the dice rolls and boosts from both hypos and pumps and make 'em drop a static X trades/hypos with disregard for your stats or RNG or anything else fun.

    Then again, the pump is an option that allows you to store some unused trades at a given RNG/Stat modified transactional cost, or to transfer trades to another player, also at a given modified transactional cost. it's not really intended to be just a piggy bank for trades, and I'm not entirely sure that making them such really should be a goal. (: